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	<title>Comments on: When Heroes Jumped the Shark</title>
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	<description>Words of wisdom from a combustable amphibian.</description>
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		<title>By: Prest0</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prest0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Landon Gregory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Landon Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://io9.com/5107155/wait-bryan-fuller-can-save-heroes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://io9.com/5107155/wait-bryan-fuller-can-save-heroes" rel="nofollow">http://io9.com/5107155/wait-bryan-fuller-can-save-heroes</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ed Wetterman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Wetterman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....nah....I ain&#039;t watched it since season 2....

Supernatural still number 1 on my watch list, though now they have gone the Armaggedon route, I guess this will be the last season.  I mean, what can they do next?

L8rs,

Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.nah&#8230;.I ain&#8217;t watched it since season 2&#8230;.</p>
<p>Supernatural still number 1 on my watch list, though now they have gone the Armaggedon route, I guess this will be the last season.  I mean, what can they do next?</p>
<p>L8rs,</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: Prest0</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prest0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And in related news, David Fuller may be coming back to give the show more hands-on help: http://io9.com/5102213/fuller-to-finish-heroes-season-in-style</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And in related news, David Fuller may be coming back to give the show more hands-on help: <a href="http://io9.com/5102213/fuller-to-finish-heroes-season-in-style" rel="nofollow">http://io9.com/5102213/fuller-to-finish-heroes-season-in-style</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d have to agree with that completely.  It&#039;s hard to have a show about super powered beings jump the shark, but damned if the idiot-catering networks didn&#039;t go and do it.    

I was even postulating the other day that comic book movies have had a great effect on comics as a whole.  They had to ground them somewhat in reality, make them somewhat believable in order to sell it as a movie.  As a result, the comic books themselves have gotten better.    

Conversely, people like Frank Miller and Todd Mcfarlane were doing some incredible comics prior to the comic movie craze.  I think their stuff was a major factor in getting good comic book movies out.  Finally there was good translatable source material.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have to agree with that completely.  It&#8217;s hard to have a show about super powered beings jump the shark, but damned if the idiot-catering networks didn&#8217;t go and do it.    </p>
<p>I was even postulating the other day that comic book movies have had a great effect on comics as a whole.  They had to ground them somewhat in reality, make them somewhat believable in order to sell it as a movie.  As a result, the comic books themselves have gotten better.    </p>
<p>Conversely, people like Frank Miller and Todd Mcfarlane were doing some incredible comics prior to the comic movie craze.  I think their stuff was a major factor in getting good comic book movies out.  Finally there was good translatable source material.</p>
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		<title>By: Prest0</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah. I&#039;m not saying that there haven&#039;t been other major, ham-fisted fumbles along the way. I&#039;m just saying that&#039;s when they jumped the shark. :)

Personally, I like the idea of Arthur Petrelli as a villian and I get what they&#039;re trying to do. I hate that the melodrama has been cranked up to 11 and the characters have been jerked around so much that they&#039;re getting whiplash. At first I hated what they were doing with Syler, but having done it I hate even more that now they&#039;re trying to undo it. That entire character arch should have taken at minimum a full season. It should have started last season with Maya and making a connection with her and this season slowly becoming &quot;human&quot; instead of just a cardboard sociopath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah. I&#8217;m not saying that there haven&#8217;t been other major, ham-fisted fumbles along the way. I&#8217;m just saying that&#8217;s when they jumped the shark. :)</p>
<p>Personally, I like the idea of Arthur Petrelli as a villian and I get what they&#8217;re trying to do. I hate that the melodrama has been cranked up to 11 and the characters have been jerked around so much that they&#8217;re getting whiplash. At first I hated what they were doing with Syler, but having done it I hate even more that now they&#8217;re trying to undo it. That entire character arch should have taken at minimum a full season. It should have started last season with Maya and making a connection with her and this season slowly becoming &#8220;human&#8221; instead of just a cardboard sociopath.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It isn&#039;t helping that the big bad this season, Arthur Petrelli, is a horribly written, badly acted drag on the show.

The massive amounts of retcon going on isn&#039;t helping either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#8217;t helping that the big bad this season, Arthur Petrelli, is a horribly written, badly acted drag on the show.</p>
<p>The massive amounts of retcon going on isn&#8217;t helping either.</p>
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